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So whats the difference between OEM (monroe) and the "economy" Sensens and what's the difference in part quality?
Monroe is not OEM, KYB is. I wouldn't get either of those brands. For longevity and OE ride quality get KYB's. If you are looking for a little more performance get some Tokico "Blues".
 

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I'm looking to start upgrading my 03 LX coupe. I want to get the rear anti-roll bar but was wondering if you need to get upgraded struts at the same time. I know for some other cars, the strut can't handle the added force and the tab will break off where it is connected. Struts and springs or maybe coilovers are part of the plan later on but I would like to know if they are necessary at the same time as the sway bar. Also, is it a bad idea to have sportier struts on stock springs? I like the current ride height because there are some rough roads around where I live so I don't really want to lower it. Would it actually stiffen up the suspension or just make it worse and wear everything out faster? I'm due for some new shocks and sportier ones would be nice if I could do it on the stock springs. Thanks for the info, sorry for the long post. Still learning here!
 

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There is no need to upgrade your struts when you upgrade a rear sway bar. The only thing is end links, OE could break but for most people they are sufficient.

Yes you can run upgraded struts with stick springs. It will improve your handling without sacrificing your ride quality. Performance ones are going to be a little firmer but still good for daily driving and won't prematurely wear out other components on the car.
 

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Wow thanks for that! that is exactly what I was hoping for so that's really good to know. I've read around the forums that the moog endlinks are the best to get right? I'll definitely look into that. I'm glad to hear the sportier struts don't have adverse affects. That makes me want to do it even more now. Thank you!
 

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I've been doing a lot of research trying to find a consensus on this question. Is a camber kit necessary if I'm only lowering 1-1.5"? I've read both ways that its definitely necessary or it doesn't matter and you just need to get the toe adjusted in the front. I don't really want to get the camber kit, I just want to be a little lower. It's an everyday car that will get autox every other month or so.
 

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I've been doing a lot of research trying to find a consensus on this question. Is a camber kit necessary if I'm only lowering 1-1.5"? I've read both ways that its definitely necessary or it doesn't matter and you just need to get the toe adjusted in the front. I don't really want to get the camber kit, I just want to be a little lower. It's an everyday car that will get autox every other month or so.
There is conflict because the answer is yes and no.

With that little of a drop your camber wont be affected to much. When you start approaching the 1.5" and greater drop then your camber starts to get out of OE spec (just in the rear). Some people don't care and that is ok, others want to be able to adjust it back into OE spec. If you rotate your tires like you should and are not running -4 camber then your tire wear will be minimal.

If you are going to do auto x then I would get a camber kit just so you can tune the suspension better. I have a front and rear kit so that I can play with camber specs to make the car handle to way I want it to. I run -1.3 in the front and -.75 in the rear. Front is not needed as much as the rear kit so if you want you can just get a rear kit. Or no kit at all!
 

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I've been wearing the search button out here but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.. I was hoping to find a coupe on H&R Sports and stock hubs. Just picked up an 01 LX and its due for a spring/shock swap at 114k on OE. I've read it's more of a 2" drop, so is that a 2 finger drop all around then? I opted out of the Eibachs because I had the ProKit on a 96 Accord coupe and the rear sagged with perfect camber.. I've read in search that they still do that, so I'm going with H&R. Oahu's roads are awful, I wouldn't want anything else. I had a Passat slammed on Variant 2's in Florida and can't imagine being low here. The measure for lowering a car all over the Honda threads are hard to understand, all coils sit differently even on the same model cars. Instead of measuring height, we always talked about dampening settings at the VW GTGs lol
 

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I've been wearing the search button out here but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.. I was hoping to find a coupe on H&R Sports and stock hubs. Just picked up an 01 LX and its due for a spring/shock swap at 114k on OE. I've read it's more of a 2" drop, so is that a 2 finger drop all around then? I opted out of the Eibachs because I had the ProKit on a 96 Accord coupe and the rear sagged with perfect camber.. I've read in search that they still do that, so I'm going with H&R. Oahu's roads are awful, I wouldn't want anything else. I had a Passat slammed on Variant 2's in Florida and can't imagine being low here. The measure for lowering a car all over the Honda threads are hard to understand, all coils sit differently even on the same model cars. Instead of measuring height, we always talked about dampening settings at the VW GTGs lol
Take a tape measure and measure from the ground to the fender. Take off 2" and that will be about where the car will drop too.

Eibach springs don't sag in the back. They give an even drop front to back and 7th gen Civic's have less of a wheel gap in the back then the front. Once the car is lowered it is more noticeable so it looks like the back is sagging. I don't know for sure but I am assuming Eibach did this for some reason, maybe to keep the camber in check. I think H&R springs are an even drop also? Maybe not?

Sedans sit different then coupes because of the difference in weight but I do know what you mean when you look at 2 of the same car with the same springs and they look like they are sitting different. The best thing to do is get coilovers, that way you can dial in what height you want. I had springs at first and now have coilovers. I should have just gone straight to coilovers and been done with it.
 

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I have heard that the 32 adjustments are more like 16 since you can't feel the difference between a single number. I have adjustable dampening coilovers and once I set them, I never touched them again. I guess it's a nice option though if I wanted to mess with them again.

You will need a camber kit for the rear. The pillow mounts are only for the front so you won't have to worry about the front camber since you can use them to adjust.
 

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I have heard that the 32 adjustments are more like 16 since you can't feel the difference between a single number. I have adjustable dampening coilovers and once I set them, I never touched them again. I guess it's a nice option though if I wanted to mess with them again.

You will need a camber kit for the rear. The pillow mounts are only for the front so you won't have to worry about the front camber since you can use them to adjust.
The thing that attracts me the most is that they have a soft setting, I'll only use them as a DD so the track settings don't interest me at all. I want it more comfortable than anything. Thanks for your input GolNat, I know our cars are old now but man is it dead around this forum lol
 

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So I decided to rule everything else out and go with Progress coils. I was looking into the GC + Koni option but really didn't want to get into the whole gutting a strut thing. The people at Progress even hooked it up to get the set shipped to Hawaii for under $1k, which was originally $190 just in shipping. I also ordered SPC front and rear camber kits, and was thinking of ordering new strut bearings in the process. Extremely excited to say the least! My first real suspension.
 

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hey guys so i am going to lower my car soon on k sport gt lowering springs 2" drop. And i was wondering if i should buy new aftermarket shocks now that i am working on the suspension. if i do decide to buy new shock what would e good shocks that can handle those kind of springs and have a good ride.
 

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hey guys so i am going to lower my car soon on k sport gt lowering springs 2" drop. And i was wondering if i should buy new aftermarket shocks now that i am working on the suspension. if i do decide to buy new shock what would e good shocks that can handle those kind of springs and have a good ride.
I will recommend that you replace your struts but only because you need the parts and it won't take any extra labor. Other than that people recommend tokico blues I don't have any experience with them but I also don't have any better recommendations
 
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